The good news is, I learned a helpful technique for applying eyeliner (I keep my eye half opened and tilt my head up, so that my eye does not get all watery). That bad new is, it seems that only some eyeliners work on me. Oddly, I could not get any of the 3 different pencil eye liners to work on my eyes. I can swatch them easily on my skin, but as soon as I try to use them on my eyes, nothing happens! It wont draw a line on my eye skin or my waterline!
I figured I'd try a nice gel liner. I found a highly rated one online and so far I've had a good time with it. I can make the line thin or thick pretty easily, and it doesn't tug on my skin like the pencils do. The only downside to this liner is that if I use it on my waterline, as I blink it all disappears. Sometimes it gets pushed to the corner of my eye and then smudges just outside of the corners. Maybe I need a better pencil for my waterline? I've also heard some people burn the tip of the pencil too, so I might try that in the future.
Online I see a lot of people who do a flick on the corners, but this doesn't work so well on me. I think it's because of the shape of my eyes. The videos I watch online are people with almond shaped eyes, but I have round eyes. It might just not be a good style for me, or I may need to look at doing it a different way for people with round eyes. But I'll put this experiment off until I have a working pencil liner.
Right now I'm just avoiding my waterline all together, but I do use a little mascara. With the gel liner on top and the mascara on my top and bottom lashes I get a simple, clean look that I'm happy with for now :)